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We keep our goats as milkers and pets; they supply us with milk, love and affection. We did not get into goats for the sole purpose of making money and I would never advise someone to get into goats for the intended purpose of making a profit from them. If you are lucky, after years of work, you might break even. The best reason to get into goats is because you love them and you want them to be a part of your life.
get milk from goats, you need to have babies. When you have babies
each year, you need to sell goats or you will soon be overrun with
100s of goats.
We are vegetarian, the only dairy products and
eggs that we consume it that which we produce here on our own farm
from our own well treated and loved animals. We will not sell
a goat for meat or meat related purposes, period.
People have written to ask me about what we do with our extra boys and how we can
sell our goats, when we say we will not sell goats for meat
related purposes. How can we sell our extra wethers (neutered males) and be sure
they won't be eaten? It takes a little bit of extra work, but to us, it is well worth it to know our goats are all going to good homes. You need to be a responsible breeder and a
Our does are sold as milkers to individual families or small humane dairies, and also as companions and pets. Our wethers are all sold as friendly and loving pets and companions. Bucks are sold for breeding purposes, to help improve milking herds; we never sell bucks as pets.
Nedra, from WV, comes to pick up Bernie,
her new pet wether.
She's greeted by Monty and Bernie.
I get people emailing me, asking in they should
bother registering their goats. People will say their main purpose
for having goats is milk or as pets, so they do not care about
breeds and paperwork. I understand where they are coming from,
we were there once as well, but we do very much believe now that it is important to register our goats. When we started out we thought
we didn't care about paperwork but quickly realized why it was
a good practice. It takes just as much time, effort, money, love
and care to raise registered goats as non-registered goats, yet
registered goats are worth more. I will explain why this is important
in a moment (and it isn't about making money).
I also get asked how I feel about "mixing" breeds.
We didn't care about this when we first started out either, but
have since learned that a actual breed goat is again, worth more
than a "mutt". Now let me explain why this is important.
We tend to stick with
keeping within a breed, as the does and bucks can be registered
worth more and can be sold to better homes. (Wethers are not registered since they cannot breed). Though it sounds "about the
money" it isn't, I always take into account the eventual welfare of the
goats and "papered" goats usually (I know not always) end up in better
homes. We always try to "breed up" and not breed "mutts".
If all you have is one breed and you want another, you can "breed up". For example: you can breed up to an American
LaMancha (or any dairy breed) by breeding the doe to an American
or Purebred buck of the desired breed. Then the does kids from this breeding would be a first first generation 50/50 (50% American LaMancha). Then breed the 50% doe kid to an American or Purebred Buck and her kids would be 25/75 (75% LaMancha). Now breed this does kids to an American or Purebred buck and her kids would be American LaMancha. The American will be worth more "on paper" than
the "grades" before her.
Registering always helps when selling goats.
We really do not do not sell locally at all. I would not
sell to most "locals" where we live
because I do not trust them to care for the goats. We take care of registering and getting the paperwork for every doe and buck we sell. We pay for the paperwork ourselves. Every doe and buck born here is registered. This is our gift of insurance to them.
our goats are
registered as well as of good breeding, healthy, friendly, we have built a reputation as a quality herd. We
sell all our
goats via the Internet and mostly out of state. We have people
drive 14 hours (or more) one way to get goats from us. Most people
would not drive that far for
unregistered goats. (Though, we have had people drive 4 hours one way to get wethers from us for pets.)
This is why we register all the doe and bucks we sell for the buyer, whether they want papers or not. We know they may not care at the time they are buying the goat, and hence not register the goat, but later on they will have wished they did.
We are not being elitist by registering our goats
or by sticking within one breed, we are looking out for our goats
best interest and their futures and hope that the effort we make to make them "special" will
pay off, not financially, but pay off in ensuring the goats a better life when
they leave our farm for their new homes.
Goats - How we sell our goats:
Here is how we go about selling our goats....maybe
you will get some tips that will be of help to you and your own situation.
We keep 21 does and
2 bucks. We do not breed every doe every year, but usually breed
about 16-18 does. Selling goats is very hard for us emotionally
and we work hard to make sure the goats we sell go to good homes.
We have gotten very "picky" about who we sell goats to.
There is no worse feeling than having your "children" go
somewhere where they end up mistreated, or worse.
When we first
started out we worried that we would not sell all the goats we needed
to sell, especially the wethers (because as responsible breeders
we neuter all but a few of the very best boys each year-
and those must be sold before they are three weeks old, or they
get neutered as well.). Now we have learned not to worry. If our
goats sell, they sell, and if they don't, we will keep them. Interestingly,
they always eventually sell. But also, we are not large producers
with hundreds of goats to sell. We price our goats reasonably and
fairly. It is important to us that everyone involved in the transaction
be happy with the outcome. After years of building a reputation,
we are able to sell all the goats we want to sell via this web site and the Internet,
mostly out of state. We like this because if people are willing
to spend reasonable money and drive an appreciable distance, you
can almost guarantee the goats will be taken care of.
Discussing Bernie before he leaves for his new home.
I always take as much time as necessary to answer
any questions a buyer might have.
insure good homes, we try to "place" our goats. We
try to spend time talking to potential buyers. We like to ask
people what they want a goat for: why they want them. We
they get what they need; as opposed to trying to sell them whatever
have. If people get what they need, they will be happy with
their goats and it will be less likely they end up getting rid
(or eating them). Many times, people who think they need
a "billy & a
nanny" really would do quite well with two pet wethers.
We specifically breed for friendly, healthy and pretty goats that are good milkers, loving
companions and/or friendly pets. We have worked hard to build a reputation as reputable breeders.
We only keep the amount of goats we can manage (more is not always better). We give each of our goats individual attention every day.
our breeding so that we can make sure we are able to give one-on-one attention to the all our moms and kids. We breed only three
does in a "batch" and have at least two weeks between
batches. This way, the babies have playmates, but we are not so
overrun by babies that we couldn't possibly give individual attention
to them each day. By giving each kid individual attention and love every single day,
we can make sure they are friendly and healthy.
By placing friendly,
healthy, loving goats in good homes, it is our hope that the new
owners fall in love with them and we can feel safe in knowing they
will probably live out their lives as happy pets and companions.
end note: I ask you to please be responsible breeders and sellers
as well. Please wether (neuter) all the "best" of your boys. We
all should all work together to improve our goats, and just because
the goat has a penis does not mean he should be used for breeding.
The world doesn't need as many bucks as does, and many bucks end
up being treated cruelly, which is how bucks in general have come
to have a bad reputation. It is kinder to the male to neuter him
humanely and sell him as a pet, then to sell him as a cheap buck
and to send him to a life of being chained up alone and uncared for. Yes, it is easier to keep a male a buck because
you do not have the neuter him, and you may not make as much money
when you sell him if you wether him, but there are more important
things in life than money and you need to think of the well being
of the animal.
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