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Fencing
We were once
told when we first started out in goat keeping that "no fence would
hold a goat". We found this to be totally untrue. How well your
fence "holds" your goats depends on how well you treat them
and how well they are fed. Our fence is more to keep predators out than
to keep our goats in. We use electric fence and it goes through some
wooded area. There have been times when a tree has fallen across the
fence, breaking it. The goats gather around the fallen tree to feast,
but none leave the "fenced" area, even though, at that time,
there was no longer a fence. Why? They have learned the fence line,
they respect it, and they also have no desire to leave. My garden is
right next to the goat area and it was surrounded for many years with
just electric fence. When I worked in the garden, the goats would come
and wait for me to throw them some goodies, but they never once broke
through the fence to get to the garden. We finally had to put "real"
fence around the garden, not because of the goats, but because of the
chickens insisting on digging up my newly planted raised beds.
There are many ways to build fences and you will find the way that
best suits your needs. Our fencing consists of just electric wire for
the does (and wethers) and woven wire with two strands of electric for the bucks.
Electric
Fence:
Electric
fencing is a psychological barrier; not a physical barrier.
It can work very well if the fence is set up and used properly. The
most important thing about this type of fencing is to put it up right
and make sure that the first time the animal touches the fence he/she
gets a jolt they will never forget. Goats are smart and may only need
to touch the fence once to learn what it is all about.
We like electric
fencing because: it is easy to set up, even for a novice (like we
were when we put up our first fence); it is flexible, in that you
can move it or easily add new area if you wish; and it is also very
easy to repair. We, personally, have never had a problem with our
goats going through this type of fence. But keep in mind, we supply
our goats with a life they have no desire to leave.
What
kind of wire?
We like using
aluminum wire (17 gauge). This type is a little more expensive
than steel wire, but is much better in three respects: 1) It conducts
electricity better; 2) It never rusts; 3) It is so easy to work
with and bend that you can use just your bare hands. This last
reason is reason enough if you ever do a lot of fencing or need
to repair a break in a hurry.
We use four
stands of wire (all wires are "hot"):
The first
wire is about 9" from the ground
the second
is about 17"-18" from the ground
the third
is about 25"-27" from the ground
the fourth
is about 36" from the ground
If you
really felt the need, you could put a fifth wire at 4 feet (we
don't)
What
kind of fence charger?
You need a
good, strong "fencer" (the electric fence "charger").
When they say on the box how many miles the fencer charges, they
list the greatest length of one strand under the absolute most
idealsituations. When buying a charger for your situation,
get at least the next one up from what you really think
you need; better yet, get one you think is way more than you
really need. Remember that if you are using four stands of wire,
you will be going around your property four times, so the length
the fencer has to charge is four times the length of your fence.
We have about 7 acres fenced and we use a 2 Joule Low Impedance
fencer that is rated for 50 miles (we wouldn't use anything less).
Don't get a fencer just rated for pets; you want to look at the
bigger fencers rated to keep out predators (and keep in goats).
Our fencer gives a 6000 volt pulse jolt: strong enough for predators,
yet safe enough that it will not physically hurt a week old goatbaby (but it sure will give him a jolt that teaches him
to stay away from the fence). We want to make absolutely sure
that anyone who touches the fence will get a kick they will never
forget.
We use a plug
in fencer; we tried a solar fencer and very disappointed with
the results. (But then again, we do not get a lot of sun here)
We found we couldn't rely on it to hold a good strong charge and
the pulses were longer apart, making it easier to touch the fence
and not get juiced (not what you want). You want a good fast pulse
to make your fence more effective. If your fence is in a wooded
area, branches will fall on the fence. If you are using a solar
fencer, it will be quickly drained into the branch and/or earth,
where as a plug in, will always have some power.
Grounding
It is very
important that you ground your fence correctly. Read and follow
the instructions that come with your fencer on how to properly
set up an electric fence.
Safety
Do not worry
that you goats will suffer any great injury from a properly working
electric fence. It really startles you more than hurts. One week
old babies hit our fence and give a great yell, but they are not
physically harmed.
Putting
up the fence
We
followed the instruction we read about putting up electric fence,
but also "learned by doing". Our land is extremely rocky
and a nightmare to dig, so instead of digging post holes, we use
6 foot t-posts driven with a t-post driver. Where we have corners,
Larry came up with the idea of "double posting". You
drive one pole in with the t-post driver, and then you drive another
post in, right next to it with a sledge hammer. It is hard work,
but still easier than digging a hole. The posts are then bound
together using wire. This makes for a very good "short cut"
corner.
See
the photos below for examples of how we put up our fence below
Electric fence problems:
Goats going through:
We have never had any of our adult goats go through our fence. Yes, on occasion, a young kid might get through, but they quickly learn about the fence and usually once is it for ending up on the wrong side of the fence. I have heard of people having trouble with their goats going through the new electric fence once it is up. There is the possibility that your goats may have no idea what an electric fence is, and because the wires are so thin, they just, out and out, do not see the fence. It this case using one line of poly tape about a foot or so from the ground, may be just the ticket to get them to see, and notice, the fence. Once they see it, and touch it, that should be all that is needed to keep them in.
Woven
wire + electric - Fencing for Bucks :
You must have
tougher fencing for bucks. A buck will go through electric fence
(just a psychological barrier) and so also needs a physical barrier.
For our bucks we use woven wire "field fencing" AND electric.
The electric is used to keep the bucks from rubbing on and/or standing
on the fence and thus knocking it down (which they will do). One
strand of electric wire is placed on the buck side of the fence,
half way up. The other stand is place along the top of the fence.
This has worked very well for us.
If you choose
to use Woven wire or something similar for your does, you should
still use the two strands of electric to save your fence from getting
knocked down or climbed on and over.
Other
types of fencing
You do not have
to use electric fence for goats; you should use whatever is best for
your particular situation. I give a lot of information on electric
and not other types of fencing here because we use electric fence
and this what we have experience with.
If you do not
use electric fence, be ware that goats WILL climb on, and rub on,
a non-electric fence and tend to push it over if not well constructed.
Some people use cattle panels for fencing which can work quite well
in a situation where the land it flat.
Fencing
for security
Interestingly,
the function of most fences is not to keep something in, but to
keep something out.
If you have
any kind of security issue, you may want to "beef up"
your fence. Our doe area borders the road. Here, we use the same
sort of fencing we use for the bucks (Woven wire + electric). This
is not because we worry about the goats going through the fence
and getting on the road, but because our neighbors have dogs they
let run loose and we want extra security for our goats from these
dogs.
Also, keep in
mind keeping out unwanted humans. Most humans are not fooled by
the psychological barrier of the electric fence, because of this
you could risk mischief and/or theft. We have personal experience
from this. We never once thought someone would break our electric
fence, come into our barn and steal one of our goats, but they did.
I cannot begin to tell you how this effected us emotionally. As
a result, we have learned not to trust everyone and have really
"beefed up" the fencing in our gate and barn area (adding
"cattle panels", woven wire, etc).
This is the gate to our buck area. It is hung using the special
hardware they make for t-posts. It has worked fairly well and I would
recommend it for use with does or wethers, but if we did this again, for bucks, we would probably
sink wooden posts. The bucks used to stand on, and stick their head
through, the gate, but Larry covered it with hardware cloth, which
has now made it impossible to stand on and so the gate is holding
up much better.
Buck Area:
Woven wire fence + two stands of electric.
Doe Area:
Four strands of electric.
The top of the pole has been sawed off with a hack saw to make it
more attractive.
An example of a simple "gate" (not used often).
The pole is a double pole.
The same wire use for the electric has also
been used to attach the insulators. This attaching wire it not "live".
Electric fence meeting the garden fence. Along the garden you see
green garden fencing plus two strands of electric to keep the goats
from
pushing
on
the fence.
The corner pole is a double post.
Note the gate is hung on wooden posts at the end of the garden.
A tight corner where the goat fence meets the front yard fence. We
use electric in our front yard to keep in our Basset Hound. Because
she is short and can't jump, we only need two strands of wire
in her area.
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